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Re: Acclaimed Piano Sound Quality?

Postby Piano Jochen » 16 Jun 2016, 17:30

selmer, thanks for your post about the Physis Piano. After 4 pages of posts still new aspects. Amazing!
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Re: Acclaimed Piano Sound Quality?

Postby Piano Jochen » 17 Jun 2016, 16:22

Hi selmer, I have read about the Physis Piano and found a post describing annoying sounds of the H2 when playing more than 5 notes. The post is in German, just for reference: http://www.musiker-board.de/threads/phy ... eine-eindrücke.529069/page-2.

Have you experienced such effects with your H3 or do you know anything about it, maybe a firmware update to fix it? Also, do you know if the K4 EX (the blue master keyboard with sound extension) has the same or maybe even improved sound engine? Do you know how the interface works?
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Re: Acclaimed Piano Sound Quality?

Postby mal7896 » 18 Jun 2016, 08:53

I've been using the Receptor for 4-5 years now and have found it very stable. A bit of a learning curve to get it up and running, but once you have your favorite pianos loaded you can save them as a "performance" on the Nord and it works just like calling up any of the Nord sounds, with immediate access to your library. I have found Ivory pianos, paricularly Ixvory Grands 11 to be far superior to the Nord pianos....or any other digital piano. Very easy to tweak your sounds thru the Ivory software, so you can get precisely the sound you want. Ivory comes with many presets as well. I also use Lounge Lizard for very authentic Rhodes which I find far superior to the Nord rhodes.
I bought the Stae 2 as it is master contrller functions, where the Nord piano does not
Expensive way to go {I paid about $4500 for the NS2 and $2000 for receptor)but IMHO it is the best way to go . Excellent action on NS2, great piano sound, and superb dynamics/velocity
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Re: Acclaimed Piano Sound Quality?

Postby selmer » 18 Jun 2016, 10:47

Piano Jochen wrote:Hi selmer, I have read about the Physis Piano and found a post describing annoying sounds of the H2 when playing more than 5 notes. The post is in German, just for reference: http://www.musiker-board.de/threads/phy ... eine-eindrücke.529069/page-2.

Have you experienced such effects with your H3 or do you know anything about it, maybe a firmware update to fix it? Also, do you know if the K4 EX (the blue master keyboard with sound extension) has the same or maybe even improved sound engine? Do you know how the interface works?


Hi Jochen,
Straight out of the box is seems Physis have overdone the characteristic overtones that define the various brands of piano, for example the Faziolli had a hf sheen on the top end, rectified by reducing the high level of duplex resonance. After a couple of days I found my piano was not using the latest engine/ operating system, really difficult ( for me) to upgrade from v1.5 to v1.6 but worthwile as all the presets have now calmed down, with a ridiculously wide dynamic range ( if you want it) I love it! I guess the H and K series now share the same engine.

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Re: Acclaimed Piano Sound Quality?

Postby Piano Jochen » 18 Jun 2016, 23:26

Thanks mal7896 for sharing your experience with software pianos on Receptor. This seems to be the most flexible of the serious solutions. You might get away much cheaper, for example Roland A-88 $1000 + Receptor VIP2 $1700. I actually started to consider this as my way to go, but then...

Unfortunately, as I just learned, Muse Research has exited the hardware business and support will be limited only: http://www.museresearch.com. Other hardware VST hosts have disappeared, too. This brings me to the question if out there doesn't exist a software VST hosts that runs on a Windows machine, but boots instead of Windows, rather than running under Windows. It could have the benefits of a Receptor (stability, low latency), but on standard hardware. Any idea?
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Re: Acclaimed Piano Sound Quality?

Postby Piano Jochen » 18 Jun 2016, 23:35

Hello selmer, I appreciate your detailed comments on the Physis Piano. I am really anxious to test the Dexibell and the Physis and reproduce your findings.

Piano Jochen wrote:Hi selmer, I have read about the Physis Piano and found a post describing annoying sounds of the H2 when playing more than 5 notes. The post is in German, just for reference: http://www.musiker-board.de/threads/phy ... eine-eindrücke.529069/page-2.

The post describes the mentioned annoying sounds as artefacts, possibly as a result of processor power getting to its limit when playing chords. In contrast, single notes are described to sound very clean and natural. Have you ever noticed such a difference?
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Re: Acclaimed Piano Sound Quality?

Postby Mr_-G- » 19 Jun 2016, 10:16

Piano Jochen wrote:Hi selmer, I have read about the Physis Piano and found a post describing annoying sounds of the H2 when playing more than 5 notes.


Well, that should still be OK :facepalm: if you are interested in just soloing or playing Ravel's piano concerto for the left hand!
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Re: Acclaimed Piano Sound Quality?

Postby Piano Jochen » 20 Jun 2016, 16:30

Good morning selmer,

My interest in buying a Physis Piano has become more serious. Hopefully I will be able to test it during an upcoming trip to the US. My concerns about the keybed are somewhat compensated by the idea that, should I not like it, I could still trigger it from a MIDI keyboard of my choice.

Since I will place my organ on top of the piano, I won't have access to the touch panel. Have you figured out if the piano can be used without using the touch panel at all, by connecting the Physis Piano Editor software for programming and external MIDI controllers for changing parameters?

Piano Jochen wrote:The post describes the mentioned annoying sounds as artefacts, possibly as a result of processor power getting to its limit when playing chords. In contrast, single notes are described to sound very clean and natural. Have you ever noticed such a difference?

Also, I would greatly appreciate to receive your answer to my above question.
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Re: Acclaimed Piano Sound Quality?

Postby maxpiano » 20 Jun 2016, 18:39

Piano Jochen wrote:Thanks mal7896 for sharing your experience with software pianos on Receptor. This seems to be the most flexible of the serious solutions. You might get away much cheaper, for example Roland A-88 $1000 + Receptor VIP2 $1700. I actually started to consider this as my way to go, but then...

Unfortunately, as I just learned, Muse Research has exited the hardware business and support will be limited only: http://www.museresearch.com. Other hardware VST hosts have disappeared, too. This brings me to the question if out there doesn't exist a software VST hosts that runs on a Windows machine, but boots instead of Windows, rather than running under Windows. It could have the benefits of a Receptor (stability, low latency), but on standard hardware. Any idea?


If the companies producing dedicated HW VST hosts are shutting down that business, ask your self why. Many people, also professionals, are running their Virtual Instruments on standard HW now, it is just a matter of dedicating it to music and configuring it properly (HW and SW wise), Mac or Wintel being a personal choice (I am not going to open yet another debate on which one to prefer here, personally I am pretty bored with that type of discussion and in the end is a personal choice )
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Re: Acclaimed Piano Sound Quality?

Postby selmer » 20 Jun 2016, 21:05

Jochen,
No annoying sounds at all, I don't know how you read that. As I said previously the keyboard feels like a weightier CP4 just about right for serious pianist. As it can use any two engines at the same time (programmable) it has a very convincing Jimmy smith preset amongst other registrations so with a midi controller it's capable of all your organ needs, even classical organ stops are well catered for. The musette is lots of fun with my Roland A500s stripped t shirt and beret,just play any old standard in 3 as fast as you can! There are two threaded resesses for the supplied music rack that support a couple of brackets so something like the Roland fits with out covering the control surface. And the 3 pedal unit ( same as Nord) can be programmed for Leslie speed switch, tube overdrive etc etc again pretty convincing 145/147 quality

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