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Editing in program mode and the Sound Manager

Postby 2020digging » 16 Mar 2016, 08:35

I am just learning how to use the A1 and I'm getting confused when in Program mode. When I first start the A1 up Program mode is just one slot. When I start editing the other slots, let's say all 4 are active each with their own sound. Now, I'll solo S1 to hear then perhaps change it. If I want to change it by either using the keyboard knob OR the Sound Manager all of a sudden all the other slot lights light up and all slots are active, I then have to solo S1 again. I must be missing something here? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Editing in program mode and the Sound Manager

Postby Marlowes » 16 Mar 2016, 08:39

Hej!

Are you in full understanding of the differences between program and performance mode?
That might be one of the sources of confusion.

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Re: Editing in program mode and the Sound Manager

Postby 2020digging » 16 Mar 2016, 13:27

Marlowes wrote:Hej!

Are you in full understanding of the differences between program and performance mode?
That might be one of the sources of confusion.

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I am and this is the confusing part.When auditioning let's say the A slot in Program mode, if at the very least another slot let's say B has been programmed into some sort of sound, auditioning the A slot, after having solo'ed it will activate the B slot when a new sound is chosen either using the Sound Manager or the keyboard knob. Try it. So I have to solo the A slot again, rather than being allowed to audition the A slot and manually activate the B slot when I want. Is there a way to not just initialise a slot but silence it?
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Re: Editing in program mode and the Sound Manager

Postby 2020digging » 17 Mar 2016, 04:35

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Slot confusion begins here...
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Here is an example of what I am talking about. Starting with "Part 2: Press Slot A, its LED should be the only Slot LED lit. If not, deselect the other Slots by holding A while pressing the other Slot buttons."

In this situation when auditioning various sounds for Slot A (Part 3 ... turn the Program Dial on the keyboard when you want to select a different program) and this happens either by using the Sound Manager or the knob all lights of other deactivated slots light up. Therefore making it impossible to audition Slot A by itself until you go through the same deactivating other slots process. Sort of like an infinite regress. Is there a solution to this? Am i missing something? If not this is a flawed process that could do with fixing - given that it's hard enough working with a small screen. Is this contradictory to the way the Program mode should or possibly was designed to work? And if this is normal it isn't fully explained anywhere in the manual.
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Re: Editing in program mode and the Sound Manager

Postby Marlowes » 17 Mar 2016, 09:16

Hej!

You made a very good effort to explain ... thanks. :)
It could be a bit tricky using the synth panel and the computer software at the same time.
The "commands" may collide, sort of, when it comes to the synth understanding what you want to be done.
Be sure to have the software in the same mode as the synth panel in that case. ;)

And also remember you have to "save" a program from the synth panel to store it in the computer software.

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Re: Editing in program mode and the Sound Manager

Postby 2020digging » 17 Mar 2016, 10:04

Marlowes wrote:Hej!

You made a very good effort to explain ... thanks. :)
It could be a bit tricky using the synth panel and the computer software at the same time.
The "commands" may collide, sort of, when it comes to the synth understanding what you want to be done.
Be sure to have the software in the same mode as the synth panel in that case. ;)

And also remember you have to "save" a program from the synth panel to store it in the computer software.

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Thank you. You may be right in pointing out the probability of a clash b/w the synth mode and the Sound Manager (SM) mode. I will try this out tonight. You would hope that these 2 modes should sync and if not this is where Nord could use an opportunity to improve the situation. For example I have another post that suggests that the SM should/could respond to a change of program using synth and vice versa. It couldn't be that hard as it would be a midi thing and midi has been around for a long time. I hope Kroffe can offer an insight into this to clarify it up a bit. The A1 is a potentially great synth for me as the sounds and sound possibilities are exciting but I'm still getting used to it, looking for the best way to work with it to maximise creativity. Having more certainty in how the A1 operates would definitely help matters.
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Re: Editing in program mode and the Sound Manager

Postby Marlowes » 17 Mar 2016, 10:39

Hej!

For example I have another post that suggests that the SM should/could respond to a change of program using synth and vice versa.


I think it is very wise of Clavia letting it be up to you if you want to save/overwrite a stored patch. Makes perfectly sense to me. :)
I tweak all the time when I play, but can always go back to the "original".

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Re: Editing in program mode and the Sound Manager

Postby 2020digging » 17 Mar 2016, 13:26

I figured out the issue. :roll: :D
To audition a slot in Program mode you must deselect the others, (if indeed the others were active) this will allow you audition the active slot and change program with either the SM and/or the synth knob. Part 2 of the above instruction.
If you solo an active slot, when other slots are also active, thereby deactivating the remaining slots, as soon as you attempt to change the program on either the SM or synth then all deactivated slots will reactivate.
Confused me but I now have it in one. Thanks for the feedback and patience. :thumbup:
I see now that this allows one to audition a sound alone and uninterrupted - by deselecting the others AND audition a sound against another sound/s by soloing and deactivating.
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Re: Editing in program mode and the Sound Manager

Postby Marlowes » 17 Mar 2016, 13:40

Great! :thumbup:

The NLA1 is the best synth I ever had ... and I have 10 hardware synths right now ... 8-)

Hope you will be very happy with yours! :D

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