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[E5D] On releasing the sustain pedal ...
... there is an abrupt, almost jarring, silence. What I'd like to achieve is some form of fading - only a few micro seconds - when the sustain pedal is lifted. Can this be done?
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Re: On releasing the sustain pedal ...
On which instrument? When? Not sure I understand what you are looking for...
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Re: On releasing the sustain pedal ...
Apologies: Electro 5 D. When I take my foot off the sustain pedal, the damping curve is vertical - a complete shut off like throwing an off switch. I'd like to modify this so that there's a few milliseconds of fade out, so the damping isn't quite so agonisingly abrupt.
I'll modify my original post....,
I'll modify my original post....,
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Re: On releasing the sustain pedal ...
Keelbolt wrote:Apologies: Electro 5 D. When I take my foot off the sustain pedal, the damping curve is vertical - a complete shut off like throwing an off switch. I'd like to modify this so that there's a few milliseconds of fade out, so the damping isn't quite so agonisingly abrupt.
If you're talking about a Piano sound, have you tried the Long Release function? If you're talking about a Sample/Synth sound, have you tried the Sustain-Decay/Release knob?
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Re: [E5D] On releasing the sustain pedal ...
Hi!!! I have exactly the same question!
Where shoud we adjust the Long Release function?
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Where shoud we adjust the Long Release function?
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Re: [E5D] On releasing the sustain pedal ...
Fuica wrote:Hi!!! I have exactly the same question!
Where shoud we adjust the Long Release function?
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No "adjustment" is possible, you can just turn it on or off from the panel (below)... but i am not sure that it will address the "damper issue" of the OP: releasing the damper (forte) pedal in a piano causes the dampers to silence the strings, almost immediately, so...
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Re: [E5D] On releasing the sustain pedal ...
maxpiano wrote:but i am not sure that it will address the "damper issue" of the OP: releasing the damper (forte) pedal in a piano causes the dampers to silence the strings, almost immediately, so...
The key word there is "almost" -- it's not instantaneous, and the amount can vary depending on the piano and the condition of the dampers. That's the function of the Long Release option, to make the release a little less instantaneous.
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Re: [E5D] On releasing the sustain pedal ...
anotherscott wrote:maxpiano wrote:but i am not sure that it will address the "damper issue" of the OP: releasing the damper (forte) pedal in a piano causes the dampers to silence the strings, almost immediately, so...
The key word there is "almost" -- it's not instantaneous, and the amount can vary depending on the piano and the condition of the dampers. That's the function of the Long Release option, to make the release a little less instantaneous.
Agreed anotherscott, the "keyword" was written on purpose in fact ; but the effect of Long Release is pretty subtle (at least this is what I observe on my NS2) and Nord states that it helps particularly when playing legato rather than having anything to do with the sustain/damper pedal, so I am afraid it will not help the OP. Of course this is just my view.
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Re: [E5D] On releasing the sustain pedal ...
I've never found the long release to be up to much to be honest.
I always end up fiddling with the volume if I need to ease off rather than have an abrupt stop. I use a volume/expression pedal for doing this with the organ and samples, but it doesn't affect the piano on my electro 3.
I always end up fiddling with the volume if I need to ease off rather than have an abrupt stop. I use a volume/expression pedal for doing this with the organ and samples, but it doesn't affect the piano on my electro 3.
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Re: [E5D] On releasing the sustain pedal ...
maxpiano wrote:Agreed anotherscott, the "keyword" was written on purpose in fact ; but the effect of Long Release is pretty subtle (at least this is what I observe on my NS2) and Nord states that it helps particularly when playing legato rather than having anything to do with the sustain/damper pedal, so I am afraid it will not help the OP. Of course this is just my view.
I agree that the effect is subtle, but it was one of the reasons I preferred the NS2 to the Electro 3. I really did find that the Electro 3 piano releases made the piano feel unnatural to me, and the Long Release when I upgraded to the NS2 made enough difference to make the pianos noticeably more satisfying to play. There are at least certain notes at certain (quieter, I think) velocities where, without long release, it sounds almost like the notes are being "sucked away" when you release the key, and LR made it more natural, with that little bit of extra decay. I actually found this to be more important than the additional string resonances that were offered on the NS2 or the related differences between the S/M/L versions of the pianos!
I disagree with Nord about it being geared toward legato playing... I hear it easily in staccato playing (probably even MORE easily, since the abrupt end of a note cannot be at all masked by the presence of some other note playing).
With the pedal down, the effect is less noticeable to the extent that, as long as the pedal is down, of course, the notes aren't being damped at all. But yes, LR does make a difference in terms of just how quickly the notes completely disappear when you release the pedal, I just double-checked this myself. Subtle, but noticeable, and again, especially in certain note/velocity ranges. Since the OP is only looking for "a few microseconds," I suspect this is exactly what he's looking for, if he's talking about piano sounds at all.
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