Everything about the Nord Electro 2, Electro 3, Electro 4, Electro 5, and Nord Electro 6.

How send TRANSPOSE from NE5 via Midi to VoiceLive Touch 2 ?

Postby claus47 » 01 Feb 2017, 12:29

When I use the "TRANSPOSE" function of my NE5, its key changes as expected, but the harmonies of the midi-connected VLT2 don't change, though a midi signal is recognized. The harmonies follow those played on the NE5, but in the same (now wrong) key as before the transposing.

So how can I send a "TRANSPOSE" command to my "TC Helicon VoiceLive Touch 2" via Nord Electro 5d and Midi :?:

:thanks:
User avatar
claus47
 
Posts: 7
Joined: 09 Jan 2017, 16:41
Country: Germany
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 2 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Electro 5

How send TRANSPOSE from NE5 via Midi to VoiceLive Touch 2 ?


Sponsor
 

Re: How send TRANSPOSE from NE5 via Midi to VoiceLive Touch

Postby maxpiano » 01 Feb 2017, 16:31

The "transpose" is an internal setting of each machine, there is no MIDI message related to Transpose and on NE5 the MIDI Notes are always sent "non-transposed" (actual keys); the possible solution I see is that you have to create "transposed" Programs in Voicelive and recall them as needed.
Last edited by maxpiano on 01 Feb 2017, 16:33, edited 1 time in total.

The author maxpiano was thanked by:
claus47
User avatar
maxpiano
Patch Creator
 
Posts: 6243
Joined: 27 Jun 2011, 13:29
Location: Italy
Country: Italy
Has thanked: 447 times
Been thanked: 2194 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 3

Re: How send TRANSPOSE from NE5 via Midi to VoiceLive Touch

Postby claus47 » 01 Feb 2017, 16:50

But how is it then possible to play a second keyboard or a sampler via NE5's MIDI out? I thought the second keyboard would always play the same key as the NE5 even when transposed.

And: There are MIDI CC # 52 ("Transpose Enable") and # 53 ("Transpose Value") in the NE5#s midi controller list. Why?

And: My old Yamaha PSR3000 Keyboard seems to send kind of a "TRANSPOSE" MIDI message to my old Digitech MIDIVOCALIST so that its voices are in the same correct (transposed) key as the transposed PSR3000. How is that possible, when there is no MIDI message related to Transpose?
:?: :?:
Last edited by claus47 on 01 Feb 2017, 17:05, edited 1 time in total.

The author claus47 was thanked by:
pablomastodon
User avatar
claus47
 
Posts: 7
Joined: 09 Jan 2017, 16:41
Country: Germany
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 2 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Electro 5

Re: How send TRANSPOSE from NE5 via Midi to VoiceLive Touch

Postby claus47 » 01 Feb 2017, 17:24

I just found the following on: http://support.tc-helicon.com/hc/en-us/ ... rd-Stage-2

Maybe this solves my problem?

Transposed MIDI notes from Nord Stage 2

Question
I send midi notes from my Nord Stage 2 and it works. When I transpose the Nord (-1 for example), the transposed notes not getting recognized.

Answer
Please use extern(al) section instead of global MIDI, turn off the "global" channel in the MIDI menu; otherwise all notes will be sent 2 times (untransposed / transposed) and can not be recognized correctly.
User avatar
claus47
 
Posts: 7
Joined: 09 Jan 2017, 16:41
Country: Germany
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 2 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Electro 5

Re: How send TRANSPOSE from NE5 via Midi to VoiceLive Touch

Postby claus47 » 01 Feb 2017, 18:10

NE5D user manual, page 14:

MIDI messages for sustain and control pedal are only sent if their respective functions are activated
for Part Upper. Also, Transpose and Octave Shift settings will affect the outgoing MIDI stream, unlike
with MIDI sent on the global channel
.

I'll try this!

The author claus47 was thanked by:
pablomastodon
User avatar
claus47
 
Posts: 7
Joined: 09 Jan 2017, 16:41
Country: Germany
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 2 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Electro 5

Re: How send TRANSPOSE from NE5 via Midi to VoiceLive Touch

Postby maxpiano » 01 Feb 2017, 20:22

claus47 wrote:NE5D user manual, page 14:

MIDI messages for sustain and control pedal are only sent if their respective functions are activated
for Part Upper. Also, Transpose and Octave Shift settings will affect the outgoing MIDI stream, unlike
with MIDI sent on the global channel
.

I'll try this!


Yes, that sounds like the solution, I didn't know the Part Upper on NE5 behaves as the NS Extern. Try that! :thumbup:

PS: when I said that there is no MIDI message for Transpose, I meant there is no standard message/CC (I should have been more precise). :angel:
Last edited by maxpiano on 01 Feb 2017, 20:23, edited 2 times in total.

The author maxpiano was thanked by:
claus47
User avatar
maxpiano
Patch Creator
 
Posts: 6243
Joined: 27 Jun 2011, 13:29
Location: Italy
Country: Italy
Has thanked: 447 times
Been thanked: 2194 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 3

Re: How send TRANSPOSE from NE5 via Midi to VoiceLive Touch

Postby claus47 » 13 Feb 2017, 16:27

claus47 wrote:NE5D user manual, page 14:

MIDI messages for sustain and control pedal are only sent if their respective functions are activated
for Part Upper. Also, Transpose and Octave Shift settings will affect the outgoing MIDI stream, unlike
with MIDI sent on the global channel
.

I'll try this!


That's it! I tried this and it did well.
Only upper part's midi data have to be sent to VLT2. No global midi data!
User avatar
claus47
 
Posts: 7
Joined: 09 Jan 2017, 16:41
Country: Germany
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 2 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Electro 5


Return to Nord Electro Forum



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 27 guests