Nord User Forum

[Jimmyp]

I have had a C1 now for some time and really enjoy it. The action the effects are all first rate. The leslie sim is very usable for most gigs. In my home studio I have been using studio monitors which have been fine. At gigs I have used the PA or used powered speakers.. BUT I have always wanted a REAL leslie. Most people say only a 122,147,145 will do but I just didn’t have the money for one in good shape. I read the blogs and it seems that everyone is in the same position so I thought I would report what has just worked for me. I saw on craigslist a Leslie 715 for $300 with a beautiful cabinet. It was 2 hours away but I thought what the heck for $300. I have done some research on the 715 and other sold state leslies for some time but I always discounted them because they weren’t REAL leslies. Well I got to tell you this thing in my home studio is the best sound that I have heard in a long time. It came with an 11 pin cable that plugged right in the C1. All functions worked perfectly leslie control fast/slow/brake all worked just like the sim switching. I wasn’t sure that the effects would come through the 11 pin but reverb, gain, and delay all sounded perfect. This is probably the best $300 that I have spent on a musical instrument in a long time. Anyway the point is if you can’t afford a 122 with the preamp issues or the connecting cable requirements. Pick up one of these sweet little units (44 in tall and 170 lbs.) and have a great time for a little money.



Jim

[mjbrands]

Pick up one of these sweet little units (44 in tall and 170 lbs.)

Ha, your definition of 'little' differs from mine

Glad to hear the 715 works well for you.

Btw. I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a Hammond and a Hapi...

[Mooser]

The 715 has an upper driver-rotary horn (with it's own solid-state amp) a 15" woofer, without a rotating baffle, and some 6x9? It was a two-channel job?

It's got the essential upper horn, and the bottom rotor is not as essential, in fact many people disconnect it.(The rotating baffle, not the speaker!) And the roto-sonic speaker would handle some of that.

http://www.seipel.de/pages/archiv/oldie ... 15/715.htm

[flmc59]

Dear Mooser
I have come to the conclusion that the bottom rotor is actually the most influential of the two in a leslie and if I am forced to choose then a lower rotor only would me my choice.
Reason is that the bulk of the sound goes through the lower rotor.

This dawned on med when i added a leslie 110 to my MotionSound pro3x.

The Leslie effect addition and the 3d feeling was much bigger adding the 110 than just adding the Motion Sound pro3 and a bass amp.

If you have big leslie 122/147/145 etc where it is easy to disconnect the plugs to the motors - dissconnet all but the fast lower. Play with stopped Leslie and 808 000 000 Flip the Leslie switch and hear the room come alive.
Now only have the horn connected on fast.
Do the same thing. On 808 000 000 sound there is not that much coming out the horn.

I got a 130 Lelsie with the hammond BC this unit has a lower drum and a stationary treble driver. It still gives a decent Leslie effect.

What you miss on a single rotor system is the lovley sound on registrations with lots of higher drawbars where top comes alice quicker than the lows.

If I was forced to choose between lower rotor only and top only rotor I would go for the lower only.

[Mooser]

"I have come to the conclusion that the bottom rotor is actually the most influential of the two in a leslie and if I am forced to choose then a lower rotor only would me my choice.
Reason is that the bulk of the sound goes through the lower rotor."

Well, lemme put it this way, flmc: You are probably right, but if I could get hold of a working 715 in good shape for $300, I would jump on it right away, use it and like it. Even more I'd like it if it had a good case!

It all depends on what you might want out of the organ/Leslie. Try 800008888/fast/C3 ("squabble" setting) without a top horn. Also, the rotating baffle and down-firing woofer eats up a lot of bass. And a 715 has a Rotosonic speaker which can supply some low-end "throb". If somebody left a 715 in a basket, wrapped in a blanket, squalling outside my front door, I'd give it a home, no questions asked. And if it plugged directly in with an 11pin cord, I'd adopt it, give it my name, and raise it as my own.

That leads me to ask: Where do the bottom-only Leslies cross-over to the stationary tweeter? I would think the x-over point is much higher than the 800hz. of the traditional Leslie. Wouldn't it be more in the area of 2,000hz?

[flmc59]

I would suspect that it could be even higher for a 130 3500 hz looking at the tweeter in there . A110 or 120/125 has a single guitartype wideband speaker and no tweeter.

The other side of the coin is that below leta say 200 - 250 hz there is vert little modulation. Hence the setup if the 715.
On my Nord c2 i sometimes have a separate basscombo amp fed via a 125 Hz lowpass active filter. Gives me a really solid low end. And there is no lessening of the Leslie effect.

[Mooser]

"The other side of the coin is that below leta say 200 - 250 hz there is vert little modulation. Hence the setup if the 715. "


Exactly. And I think it's just amazing that the 11pin plug works with no adaptions! I do gotta wonder, when the 715 is connected to a single-channel organ does it still run through all the amps in the 715 and drive all the speakers? And the 715 has some slide controls for balance or something, on the side.
No, if I came home late one night and found a 715 in my bed, I wouldn't kick it out.

Wow, I just realised! My 130 has an 11pin cord (it's hooked to an L-100, with a "kit") it should plug into my C2! Whoopee! And the formica finish is waterproof, and the orange brown grill cloth hurtles me instantly into another more terrible world, called the 70's.

BTW, flmc, have you tried "unspun" reverb yet? I would like to hear your thoughts on that.

[flmc59]

I have made a few tries but i need to hone it a bit. The quality of the reverb has not been good enough yet.
I'll be back with more tests

[Mooser]

<i>"The quality of the reverb has not been good enough yet."</i>

My biggest problem has been too much top end on the reverb, which exaggerates key click and percussion. The original spring-reverb was very much a midrange thing, but of course the frequency curve could easily be tailored in the reverb-amp and speaker, to the most complimentary range for the organ. Without that it might require some equalisation or a filter.