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Re: Using an iPad with Nord Stage 2

Postby maxpiano » 15 Apr 2016, 08:23

pablomastodon wrote:sorry if this is OT, but what I'm really wondering here is what device is used to RECEIVE this wifi'd midi signal from the computing device and feed it into and/or out of older hardware such as JX8P (my first synth), MKS-70, etc?

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Ah! OK, the answer is "yes, there is a device that does that" PUC WiFi MIDI Interface
(Hope this answers tour question so we can close the OT) ;)
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Re: Using an iPad with Nord Stage 2

Postby analogika » 15 Apr 2016, 18:47

pablomastodon wrote:
analogika wrote:For editing my OTHER synths though (the knobless ones, that is ;-) ), I use MIDI Designer, which is fantastic and has a plethora of really awesome templates available for various synths (I use it for my JX-8P, MKS-70 and JX-10), and TB MIDI Stuff for the Oberheim Matrix synths and the Yamaha TX7.


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analogika wrote:I do this via standard wifi MIDI session set up with the included Audio MIDI Setup utility on the Mac.


?? iConnect for live rig and wifi for home use ?? What are you using to receive this wifi midi and port it to the synths?


The MacBook receives the MIDI via wi-fi, and routes it to the various MIDI outs that the synths are connected to.
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Re: Using an iPad with Nord Stage 2

Postby analogika » 15 Apr 2016, 18:59

maxpiano wrote:
pablomastodon wrote:sorry if this is OT, but what I'm really wondering here is what device is used to RECEIVE this wifi'd midi signal from the computing device and feed it into and/or out of older hardware such as JX8P (my first synth), MKS-70, etc?

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Ah! OK, the answer is "yes, there is a device that does that" PUC WiFi MIDI Interface
(Hope this answers tour question so we can close the OT) ;)


That's just a Bluetooth MIDI adapter, just like a Quicco or so.

It's not Wi-fi, and it doesn't route anything.

The thing about using an actual wifi session on a Mac is that you can not only have several sessions set up and connect to them, but each of them can be routed within the Mac — either to any MIDI output, or to any of the applications running on the Mac.
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Re: Using an iPad with Nord Stage 2

Postby analogika » 15 Apr 2016, 19:01

dcraftfrombr wrote:My question is to Analogika - You indicate that the iConnectMidi allows you to charge the iPad as well. Is there a specific model of the iConnectMidi that allows this? I have an older iPad, so it would need to connect to the 30 pin adapter. Does it connect to the USB port on the Nord or the Midi port? I'm already using the Midi port to connect to a second keyboard, so I need it to connect to the USB port.


Oooh. Interesting. Never tried connecting it to the USB port.

I'll see if I can get that tested — I won't have access to the interface until a few weeks from now, though.
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Re: Using an iPad with Nord Stage 2

Postby pablomastodon » 16 Apr 2016, 00:18

okay, but then what device is used to transmit the midi signal via wifi to the Mac? Is it a wifi kbd? Or? Suddenly I'm feeling very dense between the ears here -- what am I missing?
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Re: Using an iPad with Nord Stage 2

Postby analogika » 16 Apr 2016, 02:39

pablomastodon wrote:okay, but then what device is used to transmit the midi signal via wifi to the Mac? Is it a wifi kbd? Or? Suddenly I'm feeling very dense between the ears here -- what am I missing?


Ah - no, this only concerns MIDI signals transmitted from the iPad. Sysex data for editors/controllers, and patch change data for Set List Maker.

iPad connects natively to wifi, and most MIDI-capable apps recognise and transmit directly to wifi MIDI sessions.
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Re: Using an iPad with Nord Stage 2

Postby maxpiano » 16 Apr 2016, 07:31

analogika wrote:
maxpiano wrote:
pablomastodon wrote:sorry if this is OT, but what I'm really wondering here is what device is used to RECEIVE this wifi'd midi signal from the computing device and feed it into and/or out of older hardware such as JX8P (my first synth), MKS-70, etc?

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Ah! OK, the answer is "yes, there is a device that does that" PUC WiFi MIDI Interface
(Hope this answers tour question so we can close the OT) ;)


That's just a Bluetooth MIDI adapter, just like a Quicco or so.

It's not Wi-fi, and it doesn't route anything.

The thing about using an actual wifi session on a Mac is that you can not only have several sessions set up and connect to them, but each of them can be routed within the Mac — either to any MIDI output, or to any of the applications running on the Mac.


Sure, you are right, but I thought Pablo was asking for a way to wireless-connect an older device to a Mac/PC to receive MIDI data, not related to the way iPad and Mac/PC do the same (which in that case uses the WiFi network = TCP/IP connection).

Using that device you can route MIDI data to/from Ipad <> Mac/PC <> Legacy Synth, this is what I mean. :)
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Re: Using an iPad with Nord Stage 2

Postby analogika » 16 Apr 2016, 19:03

Newer Macs should do MIDI over Bluetooth natively, without the need for an adapter.
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Re: Using an iPad with Nord Stage 2

Postby pablomastodon » 17 Apr 2016, 07:59

yes, Max, I'm still not in the clear here...

Analogika, you mentioned that you are using SetlistMaker in conjunction with MKS-70, etc. rig. Ok, so iPad can send MIDI via bluetooth. What device(s) are used to capture this bluetooth midi data stream and feed it to the MKS-70? I gather that the puck Max is talking about can do this (if not via bluetooth, via wifi), but you don't seem to use one of those, or?
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Re: Using an iPad with Nord Stage 2

Postby maxpiano » 17 Apr 2016, 08:08

pablomastodon wrote:yes, Max, I'm still not in the clear here...

Analogika, you mentioned that you are using SetlistMaker in conjunction with MKS-70, etc. rig. Ok, so iPad can send MIDI via bluetooth. What device(s) are used to capture this bluetooth midi data stream and feed it to the MKS-70? I gather that the puck Max is talking about can do this (if not via bluetooth, via wifi), but you don't seem to use one of those, or?


Just for the fun of guessing, I bet (a beer) that the MKS70 is connected via a wired (cable) MIDI to the computer (Mac) that receives the iPad MIDI messages and routes them to the MIDI cable... :)
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