Nord User Forum

[costaseglezos]

no real reason to get hot under the collar over something so trivial...

I will say that some years ago when I registered my ownership of Motif ES they sent me emails every 3 weeks asking for another $100-$125 for some new earthshatteringly fantastic soundset which would convert my weak skills into making me the greatest keyboard player ever. Very happy that Nord does these things for free instead of begging for more money from me constantly...

Believe me, I totally agree with you Pablo...
...but, still, the korg rhodes sounds are better!

Why is this so frustrating for some people? This I cannot understand...

[emartin149]

>Why is this so frustrating for some people? This I cannot understand...<

I don't understand it either.

If you are playing for an audience, their appreciation of your Rhodes sound is not going to be sullied by their awareness that "gosh, Korg has a better one. Why is that guy playing a Nord?" They aren't going to notice your less-than-perfect Rhodes emulation AT ALL. Actually...they aren't even paying attention to you. They are watching and listening to the singer. Sorry.

If you playing for yourself, and you are just dying to have a perfect Rhodes sound so you can properly channel Tones for Joan's Bones, then seriously, all joking aside...you should save up and buy a 1970s Fender Rhodes. You will never be happy with a digitized sample on a modern keybed. Here's a list from that one guy's site, and he's on the high end:

1976 Rhodes Mark I Stage 88: $2,999
1974 Rhodes Mark I Stage 73: $3,299
1975 Rhodes Mark I Stage 73: $3,299
1975 Rhodes Mark I Stage 88: $3,499 (Client’s Choice: New Tolex or Custom Shop Order–Call for Info)
1976 Rhodes Mark I Stage 73: $3,499 (Client’s Choice: New Tolex or Custom Shop Order–Call for Info)

OR...you just want to have everything in your little red wagon, you want the world like Veruca Salt, so you will wait forever for Clavia to never provide you with the exact Rhodes sample you are looking for, and you'll fill the forums with complaints about how lame that is, when the Korg Empire right down the street has one that's so much better.

[costaseglezos]

Yeah, man, you 're right, what can I say?
Clavia uber alles!

[analogika]

>no real reason to get hot under the collar over something so trivial...<

Oh I'm not hot under the coller. I think this push to Clavia to create the perfect digital Rhodes is pretty ironic..."perfect" would appear to be the real thing. Complete with all the weight, the broken parts, chipped keys, out of tune bars, and other things that make it so, uh, charming.

That's why I love the fact that one note on the Nefertiti is out of tune. Perfect.

[emartin149]

>Clavia uber alles!<

Ha I wouldn't go that far. I guess what I'm saying is you can't have it all. Because if you could, then there wouldn't be any other companies, would there?

For Nord to have a Rhodes sample that sounded just like Korg's, they would have to use Korg's sampling technology, and Korg's keyboards, and Korg's electronics and....wait, now they are Korg....what happened to Nord?

[emartin149]

>That's why I love the fact that one note on the Nefertiti is out of tune<

Yeah, I'm totally not on that page. A flawed sample, with out of tune notes and crap-rattle is somehow "authentic." Well, it's authentically flawed, but instrument flaws are never desireable. Nobody wants broken or malfunctioning stuff. If you bought your brand-new restored 1974 Rhodes for $3500 you'd be mighty ticked about any out of tune notes.

Junky instruments are junky instruments, no matter how old they are. Digitally sampling their weaknesses seems kinda foolish to me. It's cute because it's free, but if Nord was charging for it, no-one would want it.

[jazzystu]

I think I had 4 Rhodes pianos in total. 3 of them were terrible. I had a stage 88 which I rebuilt (early 60s). Replaced the tips, did the keyboard pedestal mod (for crappy old ones), did the keyboard bushings, re-tipped it, tried setting it up from scratch, after cleaning everything. Was a nightmare. Got the tines approx right visually, then tried tweaking it to get a consistent graduation of tone. There was no logic to it. The results were terrible.

My last suitcase had it's tonebars, tines and pickups positioned like a hillbillies teeth. How the hell it worked is beyond me, how the tone was gradually changed with pitch, with no clacky notes, no odd tones or out of tune stuff is beyond me.

I think you can pay £7000 for a restored rhodes and it COULD still be a nightmare. You could by one for £200 and it would be bang on.

I was regularly commended on my "integrity" of dragging a Suitcase 88, D6 Clavinet and Minimoog D to gigs. Would leave the moog at home for small gigs. The suitcase amp is a killer to lug (because no-one will help you) down/up flights of stairs. I will never forget it. But it sounded awesome.

I can't recommend a Rhodes, but I have to have another one, because of my perceived irritation with the shortcomings of the Nord. The thing is, blindfolded, the Nord is a much better tool than all of the old stuff.

I think it's mostly psychological.

[De fursaK NE5]

emartin 149.
I am not sure you've read correctly my first message.
I was just looking for a way to make Rhodes sounds more realistic by hearing the keybed.
I could have asked the same thing for a piano, for exemple, there is on the Kronos a way to simulate the opening of a piano in different positions.
I think those fonction interresting.
I like Nord sounds but I would like more so I could have the perfect instrument if such things exists.
Human nature you see... Never satisfied...

Otherwise, as Mr Pablo says, no need to get a hot collar about it

[costaseglezos]

emartin 149.
I am not sure you've read correctly my first message.

He hasn't red any message at all.
He 's just talking without listening...

[Davyk Al]

>Nord owners would not look to other brands<

Nord owners don't look to other brands, dude. We're at the top. Presidents don't run for the Senate once they are out of the White House.

As for keybed samples - again, if the Nefertiti isn't doing it for you - BUY A RHODES (to the tune of the old standard "All of Me")

In fact there is an expresident that was in office relected and is the most popular politician in my country. He loves politics so much that now he is a senator. He simply could not stay home. His name is Alvaro Uribe Velez and his twitter has more than 4 million followers he is love or hated.

Now out of politics, Nord do follow other brands, they did it with the hammond sk1 and that is why they had to make the electro 5 with split, layering plus drawbars, or else for many, hammond was their first choice and that includes me. Thanks to that upgrade I chose Nord. Maybe in the synth area they do not do it but certainly on the electro.

For the op, that could be interesting, having a unique rhodes sound however they have so many products been a small company that maybe they prefer working on something else.