This is the right place if your topic concerns different Nord Keyboards, you are not sure which one is the right one for you, etc.

The same sample can sound different depending the Nord

Postby De fursaK NE5 » 02 Oct 2016, 22:13

Hi,
I've tested something.

Take the same piano sample, install it on 2 different machine.
Let's say, Nord Piano 3 and Electro 5. You can naturaly recognize it's caracter and sound but something is different. I don't know what but samples I did not use on a machine, has an interest on the second one, and some samples I used has not such character.

Did someone notice that ?

For example, I like veeery much the grand Lady D on the Electro and on a Piano 3 ... not that much. :?
Other example, studio grand 2 on the Electro was not my cup of tea, and on a Nord Piano 3 ... wow, sounds increadible !!! :o

Exactly Same Speakers and configuration.

Your opinion or test on that would interest me.

Thanks

Cheers

De fursaK
User avatar
De fursaK NE5
 
Posts: 257
Joined: 26 Oct 2015, 22:00
Country: Canada
Has thanked: 10 times
Been thanked: 41 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Piano 3

The same sample can sound different depending the Nord


Sponsor
 

Re: The same sample can sound different depending the Nord

Postby Berretje » 02 Oct 2016, 23:15

Correct: the (piano) sounds have more body on my Nord Stage 2 then on my Nord Electro 4.
Maybe because of the different amplification inside the keyboard?
Gr Bart

Coverband Blush
Nord User Sounds - Program/Sample Collection

>> Check this awesome website to visually view the settings of your NS2/NS3 programs!


Current gear
Nord Stage 2 HA88
Yamaha Tyros 5
Connected with a MioXM and powered by Bandhelper
User avatar
Berretje
Moderator
 
Posts: 1246
Joined: 09 Nov 2013, 00:48
Location: Mierlo
Country: Netherlands
Has thanked: 1164 times
Been thanked: 421 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 2
Your Nord Gear #2: Other Brand

Re: The same sample can sound different depending the Nord

Postby De fursaK NE5 » 03 Oct 2016, 00:39

Hi',

Did you ear that on Every piano or did you just prefer other models of samples depending the machine like me ?

Cheers

De fursaK
User avatar
De fursaK NE5
 
Posts: 257
Joined: 26 Oct 2015, 22:00
Country: Canada
Has thanked: 10 times
Been thanked: 41 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Piano 3

Re: The same sample can sound different depending the Nord

Postby kaljo » 03 Oct 2016, 04:39

Are you sure that it hasn't anything to do with the different keyaction? If you had the waterfall action on the electro maybe it was easier to reach a higher velocity and therefore you think it sounds different? I remember that when I used my older Yamaha S30 for piano with unweighted keys that it sounded different when I connected a weighted midikeyboard to it.
Last edited by kaljo on 03 Oct 2016, 04:41, edited 1 time in total.
Yamaha CLP 411, Yamaha S30, Nord Piano 3
kaljo
 
Posts: 28
Joined: 12 Jan 2016, 11:26
Country: Sweden
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 6 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Piano 3

Re: The same sample can sound different depending the Nord

Postby De fursaK NE5 » 03 Oct 2016, 04:59

Hi,
I thought about that but the keybed on the electro was HP.
And the Nord P3 is something else but still with heavy keybed ...
Strange ...
User avatar
De fursaK NE5
 
Posts: 257
Joined: 26 Oct 2015, 22:00
Country: Canada
Has thanked: 10 times
Been thanked: 41 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Piano 3

Re: The same sample can sound different depending the Nord

Postby GeeDeWee » 03 Oct 2016, 09:37

Maybe a good way to rule out the difference in key bed is to connect both the Nords to the same midi controller.
Or play the Electro 'remotely' by the NP3.
I wonder if you still hear the difference...

Can't do that test myself unfortunately. I just own one (awesome) Nord.
Last edited by GeeDeWee on 03 Oct 2016, 09:44, edited 1 time in total.
GeeDeWee
 
Posts: 165
Joined: 24 Apr 2015, 11:41
Location: Groningen
Country: Netherlands
Has thanked: 51 times
Been thanked: 37 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 4

Re: The same sample can sound different depending the Nord

Postby maurus » 03 Oct 2016, 11:31

I am pretty sure this impression is a result of the action-sound connection. Playing my E5 from its SW action or from the VPC1 feels like two different instruments. Actually, just changing the touch curve inside the VPC has a similar (smaller) effect. Of course there may also be impedance issues in the audio chain, requiring subtle EQ changes. Another experience with headphones is that even a minuscule change in EQ can indeed change the overall feeling of a Piano sound, especially the balance over the range, if you are sensitive to nuances.
Last edited by maurus on 03 Oct 2016, 11:32, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
maurus
 
Posts: 457
Joined: 26 Jun 2011, 11:34
Has thanked: 83 times
Been thanked: 130 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Electro 5
Your Nord Gear #2: Other Brand

Re: The same sample can sound different depending the Nord

Postby De fursaK NE5 » 03 Oct 2016, 15:35

Hi,
Mmmm.... maybe you are wright ....
I cannot plug in midi those 2 Nord so if someone can test for us, just to know.

Cheers
De fursaK
User avatar
De fursaK NE5
 
Posts: 257
Joined: 26 Oct 2015, 22:00
Country: Canada
Has thanked: 10 times
Been thanked: 41 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Piano 3

Re: The same sample can sound different depending the Nord

Postby MoBroCN » 03 Oct 2016, 22:12

I upgraded from electro 4 to 5 half year ago. I 've been driving the nords with my Roland digital piano, so the action is the same and I keep switching velocity curves on the nords to get the best control. To my ear, Grand lady has more "meat" on the 4, or the different samples have more distinct characters on the 4. There 's a similarness between piano samples on the 5. It's pretty obvious to me. But now I think I'm used to how the e5 sounds and I'm happy again. A friend of mine who plays big tv shows insisted the e5 sounds 'plasticky' compared with the stage 2.
MoBroCN
 
Posts: 11
Joined: 09 May 2016, 16:03
Country: China
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 1 time
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Electro 5
Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Lead 1/2/2x

Re: The same sample can sound different depending the Nord

Postby Mr_-G- » 03 Oct 2016, 22:45

To make a fair comparison, this needs to be done with a blind test, side by side, triggered from the same controller with no processing. Otherwise it seems to me that there are too many variables at play: different, rooms, keybeds, velocity curves, settings, amps, etc.
User avatar
Mr_-G-
Moderator
 
Posts: 4616
Joined: 18 Aug 2012, 16:48
Has thanked: 1475 times
Been thanked: 1257 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 2

Next

Return to General Nord Forum



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 35 guests