I went on a synth buying spree a few years ago and had to have a Voyager. When it arrived as I was thrilled.
I finally had the same synth that was used by so many musicians I admired. It was beautiful and it appealed to
my inner snob. As much as I wanted to love it, especially for what it cost, I had the gnawing feeling that
the performance didn't live up to the hype. I found myself using my Nord Wave(still fantastic) and Access Virus
95% of the time, while the Moog went ignored. The Wave is still my favorite and so much more versatile.
The presets are lightyears better than the Voyager, which are frankly cheesy and redundant.
I use some very high quality studio monitors and my ear can't distinguish between digital and analog sound, so
I feel Moogs are somewhat obsolete. I did wring some cool sounds out of the Moog from time to time.
Maybe it's just my style of music wasn't a good fit for the Moog.
With the Wave I have countless samples from the Nord library to plunder that more than make up for
the few things the Moog does best.
Then there was always the concern that it will eventually require maintenance or repair and how expensive
shipping the thing would be because it weighed a ton so I sold it and have no regrets.
If only the Wave had an arpeggiator it would be perfect!
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Re: Nord and not Moog
Exactly, I've always been scared by that, thinking that my real willingness to have a Moog was that so many great musicians played with it instead of a real need for this particular sound...So, I never bought one...I had and still have the "Wow factor" anytine I'm going thru the presets of my Nord Lead 2X, and I've heard so nice comments on the Nord Wave that I ttotally understand your position...
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Re: Nord and not Moog
[quote=Quai34]All Moog are monophonic, all Nord are polyphonic.[/quote]
Just note that:
Moog Apollo
Moog Polymoog
Moog Memoymoog
Moog opus 3
Moog Slim Phatty
Are polyphonics . (Yes : Apollo : more prototype, memory : kinda polyphonic)
Just note that:
Moog Apollo
Moog Polymoog
Moog Memoymoog
Moog opus 3
Moog Slim Phatty
Are polyphonics . (Yes : Apollo : more prototype, memory : kinda polyphonic)
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Re: Nord and not Moog
Garion wrote:Just note that:
Moog Apollo
Moog Polymoog
Moog Memoymoog
Moog opus 3
Moog Slim Phatty
Are polyphonics . (Yes : Apollo : more prototype, memory : kinda polyphonic)
Small correction: the Little/Slim Phatty is monophonic, even if it can be "polychained".
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Re: Nord and not Moog
...well, Slim Phatty is as much polyphonic as the Little Phatty is, which is: not polyphonic but chainable
EDIT: voilà, sorry
On the other hand, the Sub37 and the newest Subsequent 37CV are duophony capable.
EDIT: voilà, sorry
On the other hand, the Sub37 and the newest Subsequent 37CV are duophony capable.
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Re: Nord and not Moog
Clarification: The Slim Phatty itself is not polyphonic. You can cascade several of them to get polyphony.
The Memorymoog is absolutely and definitely polyphonic. It has three oscillators, full voicing, filtering and articulation for each of its six voices - 18 oscillators (+LFO), six ladder filters, twelve ADSR envelopes, etc.
The Polymoog is a weird beast - it's kind fully polyphonic (divide-down), but if you want to use the adjustable filter, it's paraphonic (single filter shared by multiple notes).
I took his comment, as the entire thread, to refer to CURRENTLY AVAILABLE moogs, though.
So that leaves the SPhatty as "polyphonic" - if you buy, like, six of them.
And the Sub37 as dual paraphonic.
The Memorymoog is absolutely and definitely polyphonic. It has three oscillators, full voicing, filtering and articulation for each of its six voices - 18 oscillators (+LFO), six ladder filters, twelve ADSR envelopes, etc.
The Polymoog is a weird beast - it's kind fully polyphonic (divide-down), but if you want to use the adjustable filter, it's paraphonic (single filter shared by multiple notes).
I took his comment, as the entire thread, to refer to CURRENTLY AVAILABLE moogs, though.
So that leaves the SPhatty as "polyphonic" - if you buy, like, six of them.
And the Sub37 as dual paraphonic.
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Re: Nord and not Moog
anyway on the Sub37 you can use only 1 OSC when in 2-notes paraphonic mode, which is a rather relevant limitation.
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Re: Nord and not Moog
Hi,
I was thiking about the current Moog, not the old ones. And I agree with Max Piano, paraphonic with only one oscillator is not polyphony for me...
I was thiking about the current Moog, not the old ones. And I agree with Max Piano, paraphonic with only one oscillator is not polyphony for me...
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Re: Nord and not Moog
Indeed, you're right to mention paraphony vs. polyphony.
I often wrongly take that shortcut since I think in terms of harmony. Harmony starts when superimposing two pitches, albeit without full voice articulation.
Plus I've experienced paraphony as forcing creativity and yielding unusual -hence intersting- musical results
I often wrongly take that shortcut since I think in terms of harmony. Harmony starts when superimposing two pitches, albeit without full voice articulation.
Plus I've experienced paraphony as forcing creativity and yielding unusual -hence intersting- musical results
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