Nord User Forum

[emartin149]

>so rather than gripe about it<

But...that's what I do...

[De fursaK NE5]

Why did you buy Nord ?
Because it sounds good ? Because you had the ability to change the samples load inside ? Because they are not so heavy ?
would your ipad app make you buy it or not ?
If you already have one Nord, I gat the answer ...

Playing sounds and feeling is more important than technique. If they make an app, super. If they don't, it s not essentiel. Is it , really ? Mmmm ?
Once your instrument is programed for your taste, you spend time playing. Not changing sounds every morning, trying and retrying the samples again and again.
Do you ?

[pablomastodon]

I very nearly weighed in on this shortly after it was first posted -- then changed my mind. Ready to enter the fray now.

The thing that throws me here is that after having owned an ipad for about 5 years, I have yet to figure out where they hid the USB port. In fact, surfing Apple's website, their spec page on all their models seems to indicate that they do not make an ipad device with a USB port. So let's suppose that Nord comes out with ipad version of Sound Manager in the next hour. And I have loaded this brilliant new app onto my ipad and am running it. In the lower left hand corner of the screen appears a message: "no Nord connected." Or "please connect your Nord." Now what do I do? Am I missing something here? What would be the point of writing software for a device which cannot be connected to the Nord? Oh, but I do have an iRig... Well, let's see...if it takes more than an hour to perform a backup or restore via USB to Mac or PC, how long would it take via midi? Might not be done in time for winter holidays.

Honestly, the whole premise seems idiotic to me. But perhaps I'm missing something here...?

Bless, Pablo

[pablomastodon]

You are missing something.

http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MD821 ... ra-adapter

or better (powered, so more flexible)

http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MK0W2 ... ra-adapter

[analogika]

Honestly, I'd love this. I don't have my laptop with me at all rehearsals or gigs. I *do*, however, have my iPad with m at all times, since it's also my music notation/lead sheet repository. Being able to keep an archive of samples on here (or in Dropbox) or being able to search one out online on the fly and download it straight into the Nord when it's required at a rehearsal (happened more than once "can't you get a sound that's closer to <whatever>) would be quite helpful.

I can usually quickly build something to approximate what we're looking for, but I'd be faster and more flexible if I could test and finalize during rehearsal. OTOH, I guess I could just schlep along my computer for that purpose...

[analogika]

Why did you buy Nord ?
Because it sounds good ? Because you had the ability to change the samples load inside ? Because they are not so heavy ?
would your ipad app make you buy it or not ?
If you already have one Nord, I gat the answer ...

Playing sounds and feeling is more important than technique. If they make an app, super. If they don't, it s not essentiel. Is it , really ? Mmmm ?
Once your instrument is programed for your taste, you spend time playing. Not changing sounds every morning, trying and retrying the samples again and again.
Do you ?

My taste is sometimes secondary to the taste of the band leader at a rehearsal, demanding a different sound. Generally, I'd hope to be hired because someone prefers my taste, but that isn't necessarily always the case.

[cosmodrome]

I personally don't care about the app...

But I think that it would be genius to do a web based sound manager do that it runs on any browser that supports midi!

That way you could potentially only look at one single, universal version rather than at least two (PC, Mac..)

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I think you're completely misunderstanding what a web browser does as well as the way the sound manager works. A "web based" sound manager would be as useful as a cloud-stored chocolate bar. What the sound manager does is establishing a physical connection between your synth and a computer. The latter does not only run the sound manager but also provides access to some permanent storage device (i.e. hard disk). It will then communicate via MIDI-SysEx-Messages (nothing to do with some 1990s web browser's ability to play MIDI files via plugin) and enable you to exchange program data between your computer and your synthesizer in order to store and restore complete backups of the synth's internal memory as well as to provide you with a comfortable way to exchange single sounds or sound banks between permanent storage and synth.
A cell phone does not even have the phyiscal connectors (USB host interface) for that porpose - and there's absolutely no reason to do anything of that via the web as your synth is a physical object in the real world and therefore needs a physical link to be accessed, not anything "in the cloud".

[De fursaK NE5]

Hi Analogica, in that kind of situation, i understand.
A band were the leader whats a special sound. But you would have to have the total library on your ipad ?
Throught internet ?
Cheers

[Gustavo]

A cell phone does not even have the phyiscal connectors (USB host interface) for that porpose - and there's absolutely no reason to do anything of that via the web as your synth is a physical object in the real world and therefore needs a physical link to be accessed, not anything "in the cloud".

All Android phones are capable of hosting a USB device (like a USB memory stick) plugged in, you just need the adapter. I have that cable and ocassionaly plug in my 512 GB memory stick to look up at files. Therefore the idea of doing it via Web is truly the same as doing it via an "app". Take into consideration that some of the MOST used apps, are just web pages equivalents (Youtube, Facebook, Twitter...). In case you do not believe me Android can act as a USB host, hereyou can consult the API

I think you're completely misunderstanding what a web browser does as well as the way the sound manager works.

Here you can consult the Chrome API where it guides you to do a connection with a USB device and to transfer data between the device and the browser. Unfortunately, this solution relies on using a Chrome app code which means it isn't compatible with other browsers but the desktop versions of Chrome and Chromium.

BUT going this way will generate a solution that is universal for Windows, OS X, Linux, Chromebooks and any other platform where Chrome/Chromium can run Chrome apps natively. This, I believe, is the way to go for the solution originally proposed. It is easy to use, it can also look up local files so you do not rely on internet connection and you could pre-download everything you want. (just like "De fursaK NE5" would like to). Sure it is a "chrome app" and not a "web page", but this solution relies exclusively on Chrome/Chromium web browsers.

But what about a true web based solution you say? There are also github projects that provide starting points for developing a completely web based solution. JSFS Project is one of them. It allows a way to access Computer resources (such as USB) via the browser itself. Granted, this is not the most secure way to do this (you would need to develop it further), but it would mean you could run it using any modern browser on any platform. Using a browser would also mean you can rely on files stored in your device since all browsers allow you to "upload" files.

I hope this helps the discussion and allows you to open yourself to the possibilites! Remember... an app is just a code and so is a web page! If you dream of doing something... well chances are someone already wrote code to do just that!

[emartin149]

> have yet to figure out where they hid the USB port.<

That's not the issue. I think someone else linked the adapters. The issue is that the IPad has an enormous penetration into the market (and they are all over the music world now), and Chromebooks (which have USB ports btw) are coming in fast.

Clavia can't ignore this forever. The ability to upload from their libraries is one of the principal benefits of the brand. They can't restrict this to ten-years old and getting older technology much longer.