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[De fursaK NE5]

Hi,
Thank you for this answer.
It was a pleasure to read you. I will go on internet to see if there are videos about that.
Very interesting subject ! I like those technical aspects of music.

Cheers,

De fursaK

[harmonizer]

At 150.7MB in size, the XL version of the Broadwood Fortepiano is the first of the recently released piano sounds whose XL version will fit in the available piano space I have on my Electro 3. I'm gonna have to give this one a try.

[maurus]

To give very rough overview...

Very nice post Leo.

To add to the conundrum, the basic issue why tuning a keyed instrument always has to be a compromise is easily explained:
The mathematical relations between the frequencies of simple intervals in a "pure" temperament (matching the frequencies in the natural spectrum of higher partials or overtones) are as follows:
octave - 1:2
fifth - 2:3
fourth - 3:4
major third - 4:5.

Now start with a C and consider (for instance) the A above it.
On the one hand, this is a combined fourth and major third, so the frequency relation C:F:A should be 3:4:5 or, simply, 3:5.
On the other hand, this is going up a fifth (to G), down a fourth (to D), and then up another fifth (to A). So the relation C:G:D:A should be as 16:24:18:27 (the numbers were chosen as the smallest integers that can express all the relations above at the same time, i.e. 16:24=2:3, 24:18=4:3, 18:27=2:3).
But now, unfortunately, the frequencies of C:A should be BOTH as 3:5 and as 16:27 at the same time, which is impossible. (The difference between these two values for the same diatonic key, here the A, is called the Pythagorean comma.)

Hence all tunings of 12 keys in the octave must always be a compromise, in the sense that whatever you do there will be intervals that are NOT in the natural scale of higher partials/overtones of some base key.

[SingerNick]

Assuming that Beethoven and Mozart had preferred keys and temperaments for these instruments, it would have been cool to play these samples with an identical level of compromise. Sure, there would be certain scales and keys that wouldn't be playable alongside equal temperament instruments, but we have plenty of excellent samples to fill that need.

[koloman]

After a lot of theory I loaded the Mozart piano (had to delete the Velvet...) searched for my old Mozart Book and played the theme of the Sonata in A with the Variations (and the Turkish March). And I was especially for the soft parts impressed by the sweet sound. A new usage of my red Ferrari Nord Stage 2. But now I know what the NS2 EX would be good for...Too little space for all I want simultanously...

• Mozart on Mozart.mp3

[maurus]

Very nice! Yes, these new pianos have a lot of character. I love the darker Broadwood as well.

[Scorps]

I haven't got a chance to try out these samples yet, but I once had a chance to try replica pianos built by Paul McNulty when he was visiting my country about six years ago - one of them seemed similar to the "Mozart" piano. What amazed me the most was the completely different feel of that piano compared to the modern pianos - the piano was smaller, the keys were narrower and the key touch was indeed very, very light. For sustain control there was a knee lever that could be operated on the left and right sides separately - quite useful. Playing it felt like nothing else, really.

So there I was, a young blues fan, sitting and trying out some blues and rock'n'roll licks - in my opinion blues sounded especially great on that oldie and the light keyboard was very handy too - when a local piano professor (not the builder himself!) came and told me in three languages to "leave jazz aside". The reason for that is beyond me... This kinda label wasn't found anywhere either.

I'm glad that Clavia decided to bring out these great sounds of history. Now no one can stop me playing whatever I want!

[De fursaK NE5]

Hi,
I just tried the two.

The Broadwood Fortepiano has a very strong attack. Certainly for dynamic uses.

The Mozart Fortepiano is something I've never tried before. Strong attack also. Something like a mix between a Harpsichord and a piano. For rapid pieces with sounds variations in it (low and loud sound). The demo was very well choosed on the Nord Website by the way ...

Cheers,
De fursaK

[elecpiano]

Nice addition. But I would like them to put the same love in their classic electric pianos, they are not up to the twenty-first century.

[daniel70]

Nice addition. But I would like them to put the same love in their classic electric pianos, they are not up to the twenty-first century.

+1!