toniolito wrote:
Hi.
Yet another post requesting advices for IEM. Sorry...
I am playing in an amateur rock cover band with a singer, a guitar, a bass, a drummer and me with my NS3.
Even if I think our musical level is not bad, our sound engineering skills has to be improved.
As a lot of other amateur rock band, the drummer plays loud which forces the volume to be very high, and me and the guitarist are constantly trying to correctly listen to our playing without increase our volumes too much and our sounds sometimes don't mix well.
The guitarist and bassist use their own amps and I'm wired to a Yamaha MG166CX mixing console with mics of the lead singer and guitarist for backing vocal. There are 2 monitor channels and a headphone channel (could maybe be used as another monitor channel).
The recently hired singer comes with its own wireless IEM. And I am very tempted to use IEM too to correctly hear what I'm playing (which could improve my performance) and protect my ears.
I read a lot Nord User forum and other forums and I can imagine a wired solution which could fit my needs:
- Westone IEM Pro AM X30, because I know I don't like to be fully cut off from outside. I expect this IEM allowing me to talk with others members and correctly hears instrument which are not in my mix.
- Rolls PM351 to plug the Nord, any monitor link from console and optionally a ambient mic if needed
- Fisher active amp in-ear stick
I have few questions:
- Even if it must be widely better than now, I don't know if hearing the loud sound from rest of the band through these ambient IEM can be a problem and force me to increase the volume of IEM.
How is the volume attenuation on this model?
Is it better than personal ambient mic connected to IEM mix?
- it seems that there are no Westone reseller in France.
Any equivalent IEM?
Or is it worth importing them? What about warranty?
- there is no limiter in PM351. It's why Fisher active amp is interesting, but it needs AAA battery which reduces interest of wired solution.
Is there another similar solution to avoid hardware with batteries? (in-ear stick with passive limiter, another little mixer which include limiter,...).
- I could also buy an IEM receiver to use same monitor mix of our lead singer. But are monitor needs of a singer and keyboard the same? Not sure...
Still a lot of questions before spending money and not to be sure it really fits my needs. I am very interested for any advice.
And sorry for the English mistakes.
Thank you.
Hi, I think I can help.
I own the Westone ambient IEMs, but have moved on to other solutions. You will hear your loud drummer, guitarist, etc. -- but less of them. I put the audience PA mix in my ears with keys boosted a bit, as that mix will have normal levels of drums, guitars, etc. The Westone IEM design is somewhat unique. I would not buy mine again.
Normal IEMs provide some ambience. You also can take out one ear quickly if you need to hear something. Some people will set up a "room mic" and put it in their ears to minimize the sense of being sealed off. It works, but it's yet again more gear that needs to be carried, set up, etc.
I have recently switched to open-back headphones -- a modest pair of Sennheisers -- and I love it. I can hear everything on the stage (including loud drums and guitarts), but can adjust the rest of the mix so it all sounds very balanced in my ears. We all use the Behringer PM-16 personal mixers, so that's easy to do.
Depending on your setup, your PA mixer can provide output limiting to monitor sends. Your Rolls doesn't appear to have an adjustable limiter, but the specs say it maxes out at 0 dB total output, which is a limiter of sorts.
You can go wireless IEMs, but batteries will be involved. Singers like to move around (ours use them), but as a keyboard player I'm OK with being wired. You will want a different mix than what the singers want to hear, so I wouldn't be sharing monitor channels.
The best solution is when each musician learns to be responsible for their own stage volume Statistics: Posted by cphollis — 28 Feb 2024, 16:17
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