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Re: EV ELX112P vs Qsc k10

Postby RedLeo » 04 Jan 2013, 12:22

Gustavo wrote:Still the only pair of EV ELX112P I found were about about 1,000 USD each incl taxes (things here are more expensive due to importation). I also found some Mackie SRM350s and SRM450s, which are 680 USD and 820 USD respectively....What do you guys think? is the difference worth it?


Is the difference worth it? In my opinion, yes. The EV will give you much better sound quality than the Mackie SRM450 and will more than justify the extra 180 USD in price.
This is not to knock the Mackies - I have a pair of SRM450s and I use them regularly quite happily, but the truth is they were designed a long time ago and modern equivalents from any major manufacturer will beat them very easily in terms of sound quality.

Gustavo wrote:If I am mainly going to be using it at rehearsals and small gigs, should I get a 12" or a 10"?


It probably doesn't make a huge difference. The important difference in my opinion is between 8" speakers and larger sizes. 8" speakers can't carry the power and depth that larger speakers can. I also have an EV ZXA1 (8") and while it sounds lovely, I simply can't use it at larger and louder gigs because it's not loud enough. Both 10" and 12" speakers should be adequate for your purposes. Some 12" speakers may actually produce too much bass for some situations, for example it's often said that the 10" QSC is a better bet than the larger 12" version.

Gustavo wrote:I haven't been able to test them since I had some time constraints.


To be honest, listening to them is by far the most important part of making a choice. Reading can only tell you so much, you own ears will instantly tell you which is the right choice for you - and it can be surprisingly different to what you thought before you actually hear them for yourself.
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Re: EV ELX112P vs Qsc k10

Postby damasp » 05 Jan 2013, 00:06

If you ordered on the internet you could always return it or exchange and just pay the shipping back if needed. In the US shipping is usually free using ebay and right now we don't pay tax outside our state. So either shopping on ebay or through amazon etc. might be good. But maybe that's different in your country - sorry if I missed the point.

I have to say I like the lightness of the QSC k10 (32lbs), but I think the EV ELX112P (41lbs) could be better for piano sounds and in general. I don't like carrying much weight up and down stairs. EV's are a better price. I'd like to do a sound test myself, but I'm not real sure I'm ready to buy right now. I'm interested to know what you choose.
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Re: EV ELX112P vs Qsc k10

Postby Gustavo » 05 Jan 2013, 01:58

I am going to check the price on shipping first. I contacted Sweetwater and they will probably get back to me on monday I believe. So I'll wait until they tell me something. I've bought plenty of my stuff from them so I could say I got a good relationship with them so I guess that they would be willing to extend their return policy over to Mexico. (I've got my Ns2 SW, M50 61, Microkorg XL+, Mackie Onyx Blackjack and some cables from them over the years)

Right now I am looking to go out and test some speakers but the weather is extremely cold and rainy so I'd rather do it another day since I am not really in a rush (I can manage with my Behringer B208D pair for a while).
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Re: EV ELX112P vs Qsc k10

Postby KeyMaster88 » 05 Jan 2013, 04:31

Check out Pro Audio Star in NYC. They usually give some unbeatable deals
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Re: EV ELX112P vs Qsc k10

Postby damasp » 16 Jan 2013, 22:31

Just got a EV ELX112P. The sound quality is great, great tone and range especially with the pianos. I found that I'm not getting the volume I was expecting. I initially plugged a 1/4 plug out of my E3 and into the input of the EV. Only at 3 o'clock on the EV (both input and master levels), did I hear some loud volume with my board set on 12 o'clock. I also used my preamp and then my passive Behringer 6 channel mixer.

I read on another forum that the E3's output is a -10 bv and the EV speaker is expecting a +4dbu signal. This person recommended a powered mixer to boost the line level. Has anyone dealt with these issues or can someone give some advice? Feeling frustrated.

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Re: EV ELX112P vs Qsc k10

Postby damasp » 18 Jan 2013, 03:27

It seems like my EV ELX112P is up to speed after all. After talking to another EV ELX112P user on a different forum, I got some good information. One thing he said was not be afraid of turning it up between 3 - 4 o'clock. Also to turn up the keyboard. He also said that powered speakers get very loud at those points, unlike keyboard amps that get more of a gradual increase.

Some things I did differently this time was: I used a cable that has XLR for the speaker input and a 1/4 plug to come out of my main output of my mixer (this mixer only has 1/4 output access). I also plugged in the preamp output into the "bal or unbal" input that is mono. I panned that channel to the left and turned up the trim knob a bit. It got very loud.

So maybe all this did the trick. I'll test it out again at band practice tomorrow night. I think it will work well. The pianos do sound much better also.
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Re: EV ELX112P vs Qsc k10

Postby damasp » 19 Jan 2013, 21:56

Thumbs up with this EV ELX112P at band practice last night. Glad I made this choice. The band loved with the way my E3 sounded through it and I never heard it sound better. I had good clean power and much more to spare.

This is the sound I've been looking for. I bought this without hearing it, which may not have been the best way to do it. I didn't feel like testing it in a store and knowing I would buy it online for $200 cheaper. I was listening to what the other guys were saying about it and others brands in this class. The EV sounded like the best choice and I think the wood construction helps with a warmer tone.

The only thing I don't like is the way the handle is put the right side. It's in a bit of an strange position. It would be better to have two handles. Thats the only downside I can see. I got a great deal from Pro Audio Star through ebay.

Well that's my own summary and review - even if no one was asking. ; ) I always get a lot from what I read here
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Re: EV ELX112P vs Qsc k10

Postby KeyMaster88 » 19 Jan 2013, 23:17

Awesome!
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Re: EV ELX112P vs Qsc k10

Postby RedLeo » 21 Jan 2013, 04:46

damasp - Thanks for the information about using the EV ELX112P, it's very helpful. :)
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Re: EV ELX112P vs Qsc k10

Postby damasp » 21 Jan 2013, 22:01

Your welcome!
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